Saturday, September 19, 2015

Drinking...what does the Bible say? Should Christians drink? I thought I knew the answer...

I have been reading about this, as I do not subj but know several people who do.  I also know for a fact the Bible doesn't say not to drink at all except in Proverbs where it states one should not drink in order to govern well. However,  when my kids were younger,  we took a strong stance on drinking knowing what I had seen alcoholism do to people in our family. 

Now, we don't say anything because the Bible doesn't say you shouldn't drink. Right? Well, for some reason,  this topic still bothers me.  I know it is the Holy Spirit trying to tell me something. What? Well, I read the two following posts which reference scripture. They are food for thought. Even though drinking is not prohibited in the Bible, it is most times not a good option.  

Here is a summary from John Caldwell that I think resolves this for me at this point in time. 

Taking all this into consideration, isn’t it best to remember the words of Paul? “You say, ‘I am allowed to do anything’—but not everything is good for you. You say, ‘I am allowed to do anything’—but not everything is beneficial. Don’t be concerned for your own good but for the good of others” (1 Corinthians 10:23, 24).

Of course, if I apply this to drinking,  I would be a hypocritic if I didn't apply it to other things: overeating, ,television marathons,  couch potato marathons,  etc.  Hmm,  I have really opened a cam of worms so to speak! 

First article

From: Sermon number 196
There are no little sins.
VI. Drinking - Others regard social drinking as a little sin.
 A. Many are heard to say, “What does it hurt if I take a drink?”
 1. A man once spilled some acid on his trousers in the shop where he worked. That night he noticed a tiny red spot on his leg, but he thought nothing about it. Later the spot grew larger. He went to the  company doctor, who said it was nothing serious, and who gave him salve to rub on the spot. But it got  worse and worse and he was taken to the hospital. He died 5 days later leaving a wife and children without  a husband and father.
 2. Drinking alcohol is like that! A person begins to drink a little, but his drinking gradually increases until it enslaves him and becomes the master of his life.
 B. There have many fine men and women who started drinking a little to be sociable.
 1. They reasoned, “It won’t hurt me,” but as time passed they became enslaved to the drink and it turned  their lives and the lives of their loved ones into a living hell.
 2. Strong drink will drive wit out of the head, money out of the pocket, health out of the body, happiness out of the home, salvation out of the soul.
3. One time a man asked brother Tant this same question. “What does it hurt if I take a little drink?”  Brother Tant said, “I suppose it is no more a sin to drink a little than it would be to steal a little, or cuss a
 little, or lie a little, or whip your wife a little, or even kill a man a little!” I think this was an excellent
 answer.
 4. The man who wants to take a little drink should also think of the effect his example will have on others who see him. His ability to take a little and stop does not mean that the boy or girl who imitates him will be so strong. He may cause them to stumble.
 a. Jesus warned against this. (Lk. 17:1).
 b. Someone has written these words which I think are worth our careful consideration.

Have You Ever Known
  • A man to lose his job because he drank too little?
  • A doctor to tell a patient, “Your chances would be better if you had been a drinker?”
  • An employer of a man of an important place to say, “Give me a drinker every time?”
  • A wife to say, “My husband would be the best man in the world if he only drank more?”
  • A husband to say his wife would be a better mother to his children if she spent more time at the cocktail bar?”
  • A defendant in court to seek acquittal on the plea, “If I had been drunk I would never have committed this crime?”
  • An insurance company to offer reduced rates to drinkers?”
  • A community to lists its taverns, beer parlors, and road houses among its advertising assets?”
  • A chief of police who advocated more liquor as a means of reducing crime?”
  • A community that wanted it saloons open election day to secure more honest votes?”
Conclusion.
 I. Beloved, scientists tell us that one speck of dust in the control instruments of a giant plane can throw a plane off its  course. They say lint from a man’s clothing can made a guided missile miss its mark. And our so-called little  sins can throw us off the track of righteousness...



  • Can a Christian Drink Alcohol?

CAN A CHRISTIAN DRINK ALCOHOL?

By Barry Cameron
September 14, 2015
This blog, originally written in September 2012, continues to be one of the most popular and most shared.
On Monday night, news broke that Olympic gold medalist snowboarder, Shaun White, had been charged with vandalism and public intoxication. On my Facebook wall, I posted the following comment: “This just in . . . and the gold medal for character enhancement, once again, goes to alcohol.”
For years, well-meaning, sincere Christians have debated the subject of drinking. Let me be clear by saying there isn’t a single verse in the Bible that says a Christian cannot have a drink; although the Bible clearly warns about the destructive and addictive nature of alcohol (Proverbs 20:1;21:1723:29-35Ephesians 5:18) and is very clear that drunkenness is always wrong (Romans 13:13Galatians 5:19-211 Peter 4:3;Habakkuk 2:151 Corinthians 5:11).
The Bible is also clear that mature Christians should avoid causing others to stumble by drinking (Romans 14:21), and that leaders ought to avoid drinking alcohol (Proverbs 31:4-7) and cannot be given to drunkenness (1 Timothy 3:38 Titus 1:7.)
I have yet to hear from anyone who drinks how alcohol enhances anything or blesses anyone. Max Lucado said, “One thing for sure, I have never heard anyone say, ‘A beer makes me feel more Christlike . . . Fact of the matter is this: People don’t associate beer with Christian behavior.”1 I’ve yet to see how it improves someone’s testimony or makes anyone a more effective witness for Christ. Quite the contrary, like Shaun White mentioned above, or Richard Roberts, Oral Roberts’ son, who was arrested in Tulsa, Oklahoma, driving under the influence, the result doesn’t enhance your testimony. Rather, it takes away from what testimony you had.
Recently, a friend of mine, former mega-church Pastor, John Caldwell, wrote an article in Christian Standard magazine called To Drink or Not to Drink? Here’s the link to his article. John’s article explained why he has personally abstained from drinking alcohol and dealt with the bigger issue of the contemporary church becoming more and more like the world.
Not surprisingly, a number of people responded to John’s article and some called him to task for taking such a strong stand against drinking. In response to the responses, my good friend, Ken Idleman, former President of Ozark Christian College and now Pastor of Crossroads Christian Church in Evansville, IN, wrote these words, which are among the very best I’ve ever read on this issue. I asked Ken for his permission to share them here.
“Okay, I am conscience bound to weigh in on this one…. For a minute, forget about making a definitive case for or against ‘drinking’ from the Bible. Here’s the truth from logic and real life. No one starts out to be an alcoholic. Everyone begins with a defensive attitude saying, ‘I’m just a social drinker and there is nothing wrong with it!’ no one says, ‘It is my ambition that someday I want to lose my job, my health, my self-respect, my marriage and my family. Someday I want to be dependent on alcohol to get through my day.’ yet, this is the destination at which several millions of people have arrived. Why do you suppose that is? It is because alcohol is promoted and elevated as a normal/sophisticated activity in life…. It is also expensive, addictive and enslaving. People get hooked by America’s number one legal drug. And just like all illegal drugs, alcohol finds it way into the body, the bloodstream and the brain of the user/abuser.
I had two uncles whose lives were wrecked by alcohol. The exception you say? Hardly. It is not what they wanted when they dreamed of their futures when they were in their 20s. Praise God, they were wonderfully delivered in their 60s when the grace of God became real to them. And can you imagine it?…. They got their lives back by becoming total abstainers by the power of the Holy Spirit!
One of my most memorable conversations in the state penitentiary in Jefferson City, MO, was with a young man facing a 28-year prison sentence for the brutal sexual assault of his own 8-year old daughter. I will never forget the image. The tears literally ran off his chin and splashed on his shoes as he gushed, ‘I guess I did it. I don’t know. I was drunk at the time.’
Listen, some of those who are defensive in response to Dr. Caldwell’s thoughtful and courageous article will want to revise their text if, in a few years, they discover that they were able to handle their drinking just fine, but their son or daughter could not. Answer honestly. Could you live with the knowledge that your dangerous exercise of Christian liberty factored into your children’s ruin? Or, if your loved one is killed some day in a head on collision by a driver under the influence who crossed the center line, will you still be defensive of drinking?
A good friend during my growing up years was the only child of social drinking parents. When his folks were away, he would go to the rathskeller [German for tavern] in the basement where he developed a taste for alcohol. I won’t bore you with the details. He is 65 today. A broken life, broken health, broken marriages, a broken relationship with his only son, a broken relationship with his only grandchild, a broken career and a broken spirit that…. Tragically…. He tries daily to medicate with the alcohol that led him to this tragic destination.
Hey, thanks for indulging my rant. Like my friend John Caldwell, I confess to setting the bar high for Christian leadership [especially] when it comes to aesthetic holiness. Call me a ‘right-wing fundamentalist.’ Call me a ‘throw back to the days of the tent evangelists.’ Call me a ‘simpleton.’ Call me a ‘minimalist.’ but, if you do, go ahead and also call me a ‘watchman on the wall’ where the welfare of my family [children, in-laws, grandchildren] and my church family is concerned.”2
Personally, I’ve yet to have my first beer and have no desire to start now or to drink alcohol of any kind. At the same time, I don’t judge those who believe they have freedom in Christ to drink. But when asked, I always tell people I don’t believe it’s the best choice.
The bottom line is this: the question really isn’t CAN A CHRISTIAN DRINK? Rather, it is:SHOULD A CHRISTIAN DRINK?
© 2012. Barry L. Cameron
1 David Faust, Voices From The Hill, (Cincinnati, OH: Cincinnati Bible College & Seminary, 2003) 252.
2 John Caldwell, “To Drink or Not to Drink,”Christian Standard 11 August 2012, 18 September 2012.
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What do you think?  Should a Christian, or anyone, drink? 

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